Support, do not support... In realiity, Cisco today is not Cisco 5 years ago - it rapidly became very common and fat company. One of the reasons - outsourcing (instead of having 10 good engineers here, they use 100 bad engineers in India... /not beause Indians are worst, but because having 100 engineers, you will always have most of them bad). So, let's just wait a little. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Johnson To: nanog@merit.edu Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: Re: Cisco moves even more to china. While it is certainly an operational issue if there are no operators left (or on the flip side, too many), I think even that is quite a stretch. Perhaps the economic discussion can be completed elsewhere? Joe Johnson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Cc: Suresh Ramasubramanian Subject: Re: Cisco moves even more to china. Hello Suresh, I appreciate and respect your opinion. Please offer me that same respect in kind. I am aware of the fact of our diverse global economy and only think as many in US do we should be fair and equitable to all parties WORLDWIDE. Respectfully yours, Joseph Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh@outblaze.com> wrote: Joseph [23/09/04 18:53 -0700]: > Don't Support Outsourcing I suggest you lead by example. > Don't buy from companies that outsource US jobs. Be very vocal and Now please go unplug all your cisco and juniper equipment. Then open up your servers and remove all the RAM / hard disks etc that are made in Malaysia / Taiwan etc. Oh wait - check the labels on your clothes. The last Macy's I visited had a whole lot of shirts / trousers / underwear that had US brand names but were all made in Vietnam / China / Bangladesh etc. You might want to strip them off and wear just your own, all american skin. Sheesh. Please take it to Lou Dobbs, or if you have any more rational arguments than these to advocate what looks like a boycott of cisco equipment, please take it to somewhere like Dave Farber's IP .. lots of posters there love to beat this dead horse even more than you do. srs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!