"b" == batz <batsy@vapour.net> writes:
b> This is a complicated issue. Maybe I'm off base, but Nanog is actually b> really good. Combined with Bugtraq, Incidents, and a virus alert service, b> Nanog plays a vital role. Their only limitation is that they are on the b> Internet. :) Exactly! That's why we need control plane separation. Run SNMP, SSH, telnet, and SNTP (Simple NANOG Transport Protocol) across the management network, so we're sure we have them when we need them. Actually, NANOG does great. Especially during Sept 11, information was disseminated, help was offered and accepted, and except for a couple of idiotic flames, the SNR was high. ARPA designed the thing to withstand nuclear blasts, and while this was not nuclear, it stood up well. ericb -- Eric Brandwine | Apart from hydrogen, the most common thing in the UUNetwork Security | universe is stupidity. ericb@uu.net | +1 703 886 6038 | - Harlan Ellison Key fingerprint = 3A39 2C2F D5A0 FC7C 5F60 4118 A84A BD5D 59D7 4E3E