It’s gratifying to see the many talented engineers here working on a solution to the underlying problem: Censorship. Don’t confuse freedom of speech (which protects us from government censorship) from freedom of commerce, which is a uniquely American aspect of Internet design.

As John Gilmore wisely said, “The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.”  

Let’s start helping the free market route around the censors!

 -mel 

On Jan 10, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:




On 1/10/21 12:13 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:


On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:03 PM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:

On 1/10/21 11:11 AM, Bryan Fields wrote:
>
> Anyone hosting with Amazon/Google/the cloud here should be really concerned
> with the timing they gave them, 24 hours notice to migrate.  Industry
> standards would seem to be at least 30 days notice.  Note this is not the
> police/courts coming to the host with notice that they are hosting illegal
> content but only the opinion of the provider that they don't want to host it.
>
Considering that it seems that there continues to be talk/planning of
armed insurrection, I think we can forgive them for violating
professional courtesy.

Mike

I thought the boot was announced after physical threats were made 
against Google and Apple facilities and employees for removing the
app from the app stores?

There's professional courtesy; but the moment you start threatening 
to bomb datacenters and kill employees, it's pretty clear professional
courtesy has been forcibly thrown through the reinforced double-glazed
energy-efficient windows and has plummeted straight through the roof
of the classic Cadillac in the parking lot ten stories below.  :(

Yeah, it may have been self-interest or all of the above. I really don't think that much concern needs to be given any more than the concern given to spammers and other fraudsters. "you have 30 days to move your criminal enterprise, have a good day". Bletch.

Mike