On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 19:34:55 -0400 (EDT) up@3.am wrote:
When you're dealing with what some people refer to as "tier 1 providers" (I'll just say really big networks), this can be counter-productive. From what I've seen the following providers have been notoriously unresponsive to spam complaints (apologies if any of this is dated):
UUnet (Worldcom) Sprint Just about every network in the Far-East "" """ """ "" in Latin America ATT Verio
i have some knowledge of the situations at Sprint, Verio, and Qwest (who you don't mention but others do mention.) there are functioning abuse staffs at all three providers, and they are making serious efforts at cleaning up messes that were permitted to exist for far too long. they need a little time, but they are terminating spammers as they put the cases together. complaints to sprint, verio, and qwest will not be ignored, however, you do need to be aware that the situations that are being dealt with are so bad, that of necessity triage is being applied and it may take awhile before they develop the reputations for responsiveness that an outfit like rcn currently has. give 'em a little time, guys. they're working on it. complaint to abuse@ like you're supposed to, and give them a chance to deal with it. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security