PG> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 19:40:04 +0100 PG> From: Peter Galbavy PG> No, please do not twist my words; I referrred to poor PG> implementations of good ideas. Nowhere did I say that the PG> protocol is bad as a result of poor implementations. You warned of the hazards of poor implementation. Fine. How did this address Sean's comments? It seemed as if your post intended to address an additional hazard. However, _all_ protocol stacks require proper validity checks. This isn't unique to { icmp buggeroff | whatever } messages. Eddy -- Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - EverQuick Internet Division Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita _________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses : blacklist@brics.com -or- alfra@intc.net -or- curbjmp@intc.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked.