Steve Meuse wrote: I'm wondering if others are seeing the same behavior, if it's market-dependant, or if I'm just imagining things. I'm working on building new infrastructure and my current thoughts are to minimize my TDM footprint. It would be useful to get a better feel if this is an overall trend or something local. You aren't imagining things. In fact, some large national networks have been des igned to support solely ethernet. It comes down to cost, as always.... -Steve Actually, a lot of people would be shocked at just how much VoIP is now used to transport voice with TDM only occurring at the last mile and in many cases at the last foot. Anyone designing a voice infrastructure would be best to design it for VoIP. Your ROI is much much greater. If you need to use TDM, then do so only at the edge as close to the TDM equipment as possible. Of course if you are going to use VoIP through-out an infrastructure it certainly is a good idea to get familiar with QoS provisioning. Bret