Jeeze... It seems there are all kinds of policy wonks ever so ready to errect fantastic edifices and structure all manner of procedure and organization in order to fix the problem of newly allocated address space being filtered that is largely caused by a highly visible attractive nuisance, and rather than persude the people that make the static filter configuration pages to responsibly remove the portion that isn't RFC 1918 or martians, you would rather tilt at windmills. Look, this situation is akin to a gun and ammo store (the security website in question) leaving a pile of hand grenades on display on a table in front of their store. You are busy arguing about who should clean up the mess made every time a less knowledgable member of the public blows themselves up. The fix is to not put hand grenades in a public place. Ergo, please don't make static filter configurations available that include unallocated address space, people will use them and leave them in place forever. Yes, they are doing something that will harm themselves. Yes, that is dumb. It's an "attractive nuisance", please fix it. Mike. ps. http://insurance.cch.com/rupps/attractive-nuisance-doctrine.htm On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 Michael.Dillon@radianz.com wrote:
a bit more coffee made me realize that what might best occur would be for the rir, some weeks BEFORE assigning from a new block issued by the iana, put up a pingable for that space and announce it on the lists so we can all test BEFORE someone uses space from that block.
ARIN meeting happens in Orlando in about 1 month from now. There is at least one open mike session on the agenda and there is also a new policy workshop if folks think that this practice needs to be made into a formal policy.
Also, on the ARIN website at http://www.arin.net/about_us/ab_org_bot.html you can find contact info for the Board of Trustees. These are the people who can decide that something makes perfect sense and instruct staff to just do it without going through the process of changing policies.
Seems to me that this idea falls into the "just do it" category, i.e. it's operational best practice. So if you want this feature, tell ARIN about it!
--Michael Dillon
P.S. there is an upcoming RIPE meeting in Stockholm at the end of May. As above, tell them that this is important for them to be doing.
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