The Cisco box that you are referring to is the -very- cool UBR7246. Cisco is also working on many cable system integration projects...can't say exactly who (NDA), but suffice it to say the UBR gear works wonderfully and with Road Runners gear capable of doing voice, the last mile issue goes away in a hurry. Derek -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Doug Stanfield Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 8:27 PM To: 'Brad Daugherty' Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Sprint's New ION products "100 times faster" is also the language used by the cable companies and vendors of MCNS cable modems to describe their products. $200 price point and retail availability are also part of that business model. The "up to" might mean cable modems are one of a number of alternatives being considered for the last mile. Cisco has made a significant and apparently successful jump into the cable modem business so I suspect that's at least part of the plan. Doug Stanfield Oceanic Cable Data Networking Manager 200 Akamainui St. dougs@oceanic.com Mililani, HI 96789 >"Up to 100 times faster than conventional modems" is said in their >press release. >Perhaps this $200 unit is the NT1-equivalent. If so, it's damn cheap. >If not, why isnt billing built into the customer-end equipment? A $200 ADSL modem sounds about right and the billing will most likely be in the router/switch you are connected to, not prem-based.