I have had similar problems with our providers, and these are tier 1 companies that should have already been full deployed. These are also some of the more expensive providers on a per Mb basis. The one provider that was full IPv6 ready was Cogent. HE is also IPv6 (although we don't use them atm.) Sent from my “contract free” BlackBerry® smartphone on the WIND network. -----Original Message----- From: William Astle <lost@l-w.ca> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 08:39:43 To: <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: IPv6 foot-dragging There has been much talk about IPv6 lately, and for good reason. Whatever your opinion on whether IPv6 is a good solution to IPv4 address exhaustion, it's the only solution we have. Yet deployment, at least in North America, has been ridiculously slow. I have just been informed by a sales rep for AS852 that they are not deploying IPv4 until 2012. 2012? Really? I've heard statements that AS701 has deployed IPv6 on their network but I've yet to see any evidence of that in my area of Canada. Apparently they "forgot" Canada when they did it. Now I'm informed, unofficially, that they might maybe have it deployed, if I'm lucky, some time before the end of 2011. I think the above two points illustrate precisely why so many networks in North America simply cannot deploy IPv6 whether they want to or not. We simply cannot obtain IPv6 transit from our upstreams. It's just not available. And the old line about "vote with your money" doesn't work when you have limited choices.