Rob, Just thinking out loud, but is there any reason that this route-server methodology couldn't be applied to other 'undesirable' destinations, such as the world's top spammers, phishing web sites, etc? Maybe break them up into different communities, so subscribers can pick which ones they want to filter. Chuck Church Lead Design Engineer CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE Netco Government Services - Design & Implementation Team 1210 N. Parker Rd. Greenville, SC 29609 Home office: 864-335-9473 Cell: 703-819-3495 cchurch@netcogov.com PGP key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4371A48D -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Thomas Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 7:22 PM To: NANOG Subject: RE: Bogon filtering (don't ban me) Hi, Hank. ] I do as well, but does this scale? Can Team CYMRU handle 2,000 BGP ] sessions? 20K? 200K? -Hank We can handle quite a lot of sessions, and already do, thanks to the distributed nature of the Bogon route-server project. We have several routers deployed, and are prepared to deploy more if necessary. By the way we recommend that folks peer with at least two of the Bogon route-servers. Thanks, Rob. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);