[Speaking on pubic information and personal opinion] Frankly I dont think Bellsouth has done an amazing job of explaining it's design premises or capabilities to the public. I know they made a big effort to make sure if you had an existing pop or colo that there was no need for a forklift; you could get cost effective services from any area of South Florida. They should have nodes in Miami, Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach areas and it is flat rated service last I heard. There is a DWDM and optical switching piece built in such that providers should be able to do private peering as quickly and easily as setting up an ATM PVC, however it will be circuit based. The thinking was to allow large backbones to establish private peering session extremely quickly at speeds up to OC192. Obviously if you are located next to a node and can do a physical cross connect that is much cheaper then running a circuit 100 miles. However, if are located at a node of a carrier ring / network that has fibre extending into a node, it may be just as cheap if you are 50miles away or 1 mile. In this case the nodes might be thought of as "extended nap nodes" in a way. Bellsouth really needs to do a presentation at NANOG and explain some of the design pros and cons. From what I have seen once you work through it you see that this is a huge leap from establishing private peering sessions. Capacity can also be added in hours instead of months thanks to DWDM and optical switching. It's a good design that needs to be taken to an open forum discussion at nanog. dd At 2:09 PM -0500 12/21/00, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
Also sprach Christian Kuhtz
On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 01:10:50PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: [..]
It's within the bounds of possibility that the company really has technically competant people, who don't for whatever reason care about the public presence of their company on the net, but could fix it if they bothered. Even that fantasy scenario doesn't make me want to do business with them. [..]
Hmm, maybe.
And it is also within the bounds of possibility that the technically competant people working the product may not have much say or link to the public appearance of their respective Internet presence. Reality of life in some places. YMMV.
Yup, and as someone else already mentioned, I believe, this is still a good reason to avoid working with such a company.
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