Anyone seeing gmail issues ? I checked at http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en and it says all ok. Yet I either get an RST, or it just times out, or the 3 way handshake completes, and then just FINs my connection. I tried a number of different source IPs inside my network as well as some outside my AS. # telnet gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25 Trying 74.125.95.27... telnet: connect to address 74.125.95.27: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host 17:12:29.464719 IP 64.7.153.18.19574 > 209.85.225.27.25: Flags [S], seq 688245543, win 65535, options [mss 1460,nop,wscale 3,sackOK,TS val 2436358711 ecr 0], length 0 17:12:29.496153 IP 209.85.225.27.25 > 64.7.153.18.19574: Flags [S.], seq 2208544696, ack 688245544, win 5672, options [mss 1430,sackOK,TS val 1980791251 ecr 2436358711,nop,wscale 6], length 0 17:12:29.496174 IP 64.7.153.18.19574 > 209.85.225.27.25: Flags [.], ack 1, win 8330, options [nop,nop,TS val 2436358743 ecr 1980791251], length 0 17:12:29.528117 IP 209.85.225.27.25 > 64.7.153.18.19574: Flags [F.], seq 1, ack 1, win 89, options [nop,nop,TS val 1980791283 ecr 2436358743], length 0 17:12:29.528135 IP 64.7.153.18.19574 > 209.85.225.27.25: Flags [.], ack 2, win 8330, options [nop,nop,TS val 2436358775 ecr 1980791283], length 0 17:12:29.528195 IP 64.7.153.18.19574 > 209.85.225.27.25: Flags [F.], seq 1, ack 2, win 8330, options [nop,nop,TS val 2436358775 ecr 1980791283], length 0 17:12:29.559511 IP 209.85.225.27.25 > 64.7.153.18.19574: Flags [.], ack 2, win 89, options [nop,nop,TS val 1980791314 ecr 2436358775], length 0 ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/