Folks, I tried again to get a zebra bgpd going to replace the current (Cisco) route-views box. What I have to conclude at this point that zebra bgpd really isn't yet up to handling this kind of scale (not only was it incredibly slow in receiving a single rib (> 35 minutes), the vty management thread was too slow to be useful. Add to that that it would crash before it could get all the RIBs, and well....). I'm not sure what I'm going to do now. I wanted to run a zebra bgpd to get the updates and ribs in MRT format (like the RIPE folks are) as well as the 'sh ip bgp' that we're archiving now, but that doesn't look possible with current generation zebra. In any event, I'll leave the Cisco there until I can verify whatever I do next works (if not forever), and continue see if we can't debug the zebra bgpd on a different box (I'll need a few duplicate bgp sessions to do this). Sorry for all of this inconvenience. Dave