I keep hearing that VPLS is a Good Thing. Indeed for certain design models it seems to offer some real advantages. There doesn't seem to be anywhere near the level of stability concern that we saw when MPLS first came out - there was a really strong negative about MPLS in 1999 at nanog, behind the scenes anyway. [1] Has anyone got any good deployment or lab test experience they can share? Obviously comment on debug tools, operating models etc would be cool. Basically I am hearing a bit of FUD about jumbo frames, dDOS and multicast, but they look like design problems to me. Has anyone got any backbone or converged network experience they can share? Off or on list is fine ta nazster [1] and they were right *then* weren't they but that's ANOTHER thread