Even comparing Mikrotik (volume) vs low-volume purchases in China, there are few much cheaper products offering at least the same Mikrotik functions/performance. A few years ago, I was thinking that the cost of the “replacement” of the CPE was too high for most of the operators. Not because the CPE itself, but the logistics or actually replacing it. But since a few years, when you put the cost of CGN + IPv4 addresses (or actually just buying “more” IPv4 addresses and offering dual-stack without CGN – because the CGN will require you to swap the IPv4 pools just because Sony PSN is continuously blacklisting you) versus the lower number of IPv4 addresses needed for 464XLAT and lower number of NAT64 boxes, in most cases, it compensates for the cost of replacing the CPEs, and you have additional marketing advantages that you can sell and even charge for them, such as “Now we give you a box with Gigabit ports, greener for the planet - lower power consumption, better WiFi, better security, ready for the future with IPv6, IPv6 is faster with your social networks, youtube and many websites, etc., etc.) Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 25/8/20 19:46, "NANOG en nombre de Mark Tinka" <nanog-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel.es@nanog.org en nombre de mark.tinka@seacom.com> escribió: On 25/Aug/20 19:36, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote: --- I’ve managed to get better support from vendors which are different than Mikrotik. Some years ago, I even offered Mikrotik *free* help to correctly do transition … and I’m still waiting for a single response. I guess they have other priorities than IPv6 at all. --- I can buy 10-15 USD CPEs directly from China, with OpenWRT already installed, which have exactly the same design as the Mikrotik (same SoC, same number of LAN/WAN ports, etc.). You're probably right. But if Mikrotik are having great success at meeting the budget of most providers and customers, perhaps a different approach is worth considering. Not that you haven't done you utmost best, as I know you to always do, Jordi. I wish I didn't have to deal with Mikrotik either, but reality is far more different. Heck, I even own and use one myself, for my home FTTH connection :-). Mark. ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.