A couple quick points: 1) Global Crossing is pretty well behind the NOTA facility. 2) Internet Coast is firmly aligned behind NOTA, from what I've seen. I don't see the MIX initiative as moving forward with a critical mass of providers. NOTA has the advantage of a large number of supporting providers (The NAP is supervised by a LLC and Board of Directors composed of member providers). NOTA also has an interim facility coming up within the next month. NOTA will have an open technical advisory mailing list, starting by the 1st of the year. And, if Susan, et al, at Merit approved, they'll be a technical presentation on NOTA's status at the Feb NANOG. - Dan Golding -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]On Behalf Of Jeff Barrows Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 12:47 PM To: Randy Bush Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: florida ix(en) facing south A facility that has rich connectivity to a lot of networks (ISPs, Carriers, MANs, etc.) would be highly useful in that area-- specifically because of the cable heads. Whether or not it becomes a major location for high-speed exchange among the six or seven major North American NSPs is another question. Recently, legislation put into place that made it even more interesting [with financial incentives] to set up an "exchange point" in Miami. These are the two major efforts: - NAP of the Americas (NoTA, a group initiative, led by some regional ISPs/ASPs/etc, and having some real-estate/developer connections. - Miami Internet Exchange (FloridaMIX, a Bell South initiative for a distributed exchange.) Last time I checked, both of these had essentially the same objective, with differences in the areas of architecture and personal interests. Neither of the two sides seemed to be led by anyone with any real ISP peering experience at the time. At one point, Global Crossing issued a press release stating that they were going to build a Miami NAP as well, though I think they may have fell into the NoTA camp. They were squabbling quite a bit a few months ago-- not sure how things have progressed. - check out http://internetcoast.com/nap.php3 ...which seemed to be biased towards the NoTA side in the past, and hasn't been updated in a while. - as usual, when one reads that a company has signed up as a NAP participant, one should not make any assumptions that 'NAP participant' means that the network will do anything specific at all. in my past, and on more than one occasion, i have seen that indicating any level of interest can quickly lead to your name being used as a 'participant.' (not saying that either of these two have done that.) ...it often turns out that major networks appear at "exchange points" only to aggregate customers, and not to peer. (not that this is a bad thing at all-- it's quite useful to not have to pay for loops on transit connections.) For what it's worth, I am incredibly interested in such a facility in that area, and will be looking @ these efforts again closely in the next few weeks. I am hoping that things have progressed, and that the two-camps bit has been sorted out. - jsb Note: Everything above is based on public information, and is presented along with my personal opinion. ;-> On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Randy Bush wrote:
i get rumors of one or more exchange points being built in south florida where there may be good participation by latin and caribbean networks. any good gossip, pointers, ...? any choices which are not carrier jails?
randy