I get the feeling, to a certain extent, that there is a certain kind of mob mentality such that since we *can* do it, and they are a little guy, that we should shut them down no matter what. So despite what seems their now honest attempts to clean up, some are bent on still shutting them down (to make an example out of them?). Not that it's not unreasonable 'punishment' for all years of abuse that was inflicted on Internet users, but if this is who "we" are, then I'm a little disappointed. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:59 PM To: William Pitcock Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: the Intercage mess -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, William Pitcock <nenolod@systeminplace.net> wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 19:28 -0700, Paul Ferguson wrote:
I think that _more_than_reasonable_ background research, historical record, etc. have met the qualifications of "civilized vernier". The outcry was, and is not, arbitrary.
No, but forcing them offline now that they are taking a new approach to handling abuse is ridiculous.
No -- I think that after 5 years of malicious activity, it was overdue. I'm sorry, but your efforts to get the last word here are in vain. Cheers, - - ferg p.s. And by the way, whether the badness has actually been purged from Atrivo/Intercage's IP address space remains to be seen -- previous similar claims have all been false. Time will tell -- may eyes are watching. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.3 (Build 3017) wj8DBQFI2v5Oq1pz9mNUZTMRAhaHAJ46OFbpGDap70pAEHlzLwOCiJpRhgCfRgM1 4Riwi5G0vWvtZZWyYt9mgKw= =4BP6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/