"No attempt to hide the source IP" "I mean, they were using a shared hosting plan" What makes you certain it was DHS? Genuinely curious, because this is a hell of a claim. -- Jason On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@gmail.com>wrote:
Would it be futile though? I mean...DHS running a DOS against an American organization is the kind of stuff that makes Constitutional lawyers salivate.
I'm not trying to call you out, btw. I'm genuinely curious why the hosting company itself didn't file suit. You've got a US Government agency abusing your resources and acting in a blatantly illegal manner. That's the kind of stuff that results in letters of resignation when publicized.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Charles Wyble <charles-lists@knownelement.com> wrote:
Yes. I'm aware of that. It would be futile in most cases, which is a huge problem in and of itself, as that's really the only recourse.
I mean they were using a shared hosting plan. Not exactly deep pocketed.
My point is that the abuse of power is blatant and they are unafraid of any kind of retaliation. They don't need to hide.
Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@gmail.com> wrote:
"Sue them?" Uhm...yes? That's why we have courts that we can sue federal agencies in.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Charles Wyble <charles-lists@knownelement.com> wrote:
No proxy needed. No need to hide.
While working for a very large hosting company, I once observed DHS hammering an occupy related website. No attempt to hide the source ip or anything.
What are you going to do? Sue them? If they wish to take a site offline, they will ddos it or simply seize the domain under the national security banner.
"<<"tei''>>>" <oscar.vives@gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 May 2013 01:58, Michael Painter <tvhawaii@shaka.com> wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/05/ddos-for-hire-service-works-with-ble...
More on the same topic.
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/05/ragebooter-legit-ddos-service-or-fed-back...
Maybe the FBI use this to commit crimes in USA using a foreign
company
as proxy so nothing dirty show on the books. That way the FBI can avoid respecting USA laws.
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