23 Nov
1998
23 Nov
'98
3:09 p.m.
Hi Bob, I don't think that anyone's listening to your agenda-based drivel. First., it should be made clear that this is not a first amendmant issue. This is not censorship. There is no mandate that anyone carry anyone's traffic into their network, especially traffic that is *stealing resources* from the receiving network. Also, most of us out there have great respect for the judgement and restraint of the RBL team, and in general we see the RBL as a Good Thing. And the ones of us that do actually use it *really* think it's a Good Thing. Maybe this is a thread you can best take to a forum like com-priv for followups? At 2:19 PM -0500 11/23/98, Bob Allisat wrote: > <http://fcn.net/no> > > Microsoft's Web TV Network, with hundreds of thousands of subscribers, > uses the real-time black hole list censorship software. Very disturbing > since it niether tells it's clients their mail and WWW is being censored > nor offers them the choice as to whether or not to allow this censorship. > Outside their lame anti-spam statement there is no indication of any > censorship anywhere else <http://www.webtv.net/antispam/>. > > Perhaps the people using WebTV would appreciate knowing the fact that > Web TV censors their access. Or, even better, maybe Web TV could offer > them the choice as to whether their black list is off or on (default > to off). I'd be royally pissed off if I used WebTV and found out every- > thing I did was behind some one fellow's idea of right and wrong. Shame > on Web TV Networks! More info at: > > <http://fcn.net/no> > > Paul Vixie writes: > <http://maps.vix.com/rbl/webtv.html> >> If you received an error while trying to send mail to WebTV, >> please click here. > * (next page) >> Having problems sending to WebTV? >> >> Although WebTVÊ(webtv.net) uses the RBL, they also have their own >> list of IP addresses they reject mail from. Just because they >> reject mail from a site does not mean that site is on the >> MAPSÊRBL. >> >> You can check to see whether your IPÊaddress is on the RBL by >> checking <URL:http://maps.vix.com/cgi-bin/lookup> ; enter your >> IPÊaddress in the form. >> >> If you do not know what your IPÊaddress is, please contact your >> system administrator or ISP. Complaining to us about WebTV's >> actions is, unfortunately, largely useless, as we have no control >> over how they (or anyone else) runs their systems. >> >> Please contact WebTVÊfor information on why your address block is >> on their list, and how to get it removed. > > Bob Allisat > > Free Community Network _ bob@fcn.net . http://fcn.net > http://fcn.net/allisat _ http://fcn.net/draft