The first rule of nsp-sec is, you do not talk about nsp-sec The second rule of nsp-sec is, you DO NOT talk about nsp-sec Rubens On 12/25/05, Hannigan, Martin <hannigan@verisign.com> wrote:
What's nsp-sec?
-----Original Message----- From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:ras@e-gerbil.net] Sent: Sun Dec 25 04:25:15 2005 To: Gadi Evron Cc: Rob Thomas; NANOG Subject: Re: Destructive botnet originating from Japan
On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 02:06:38AM -0600, Gadi Evron wrote:
It is difficult to hear something important that one invested much in is doing harm, but that is the only conclusion I and others can come up with after years of study, and NSP-SEC, as amazing as it has been, has been of a negative impact other than to cause a community to form and act together. Which is amazing by itself and which is why I believe it can do so much more.. even if it is relatively young it has proven itself time and time again... I am straying from the subject here.
Could have told you that a long time ago. NSP-SEC became useless the day it became so bogged down in its own self-aggrandizing paranoia that no one could possibly be bothered to actually tell anyone outside of the secret handshake club about security issues they've spotted.
On the other hand, if you ARE going to sit around pissing and moaning about botnets you are too "sekure" to tell anyone else about, thus assuring they never get fixed, at least it's nice to do it in one secret place so I don't have to hear it. :)
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