"The Cloud" went down? I think not. Having ones account terminated as opposed to an outage caused by DDoS are two very different things. I'm certainly not an advocate of public cloud computing (I love it inside my own private network though :) ), but in this case asserting that the cloud is a failure is just plain wrong. --jm -----Original Message----- From: Peter Dambier [mailto:peter@peter-dambier.de] Sent: Monday, 6 December 2010 8:38 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Cloud proof of failure - was:: wikileaks unreachable Hi, there has been a lot of ethics and religio, ... but what is really important for operation: The cloud is a failure. Too easy to get it down. I guess wikileaks returning to dedicated hosting proofs that. Next time the board wants to convince me of cloud computing, I'll propose a botnet is cheaper and more reliable. Besides - outsourcing the directors might be a good idea. GM proofs that :) Cheers Peter -- Peter and Karin Dambier Cesidian Root - Radice Cesidiana Rimbacher Strasse 16 D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher +49(6209)795-816 (Telekom) +49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de) mail: peter@peter-dambier.de http://www.peter-dambier.de/ http://iason.site.voila.fr/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/ ULA= fd80:4ce1:c66a::/48