On 4/25/11 11:28 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
But if these two groups want people to take IPv6 seriously (you know, before the ceiling comes down on our heads), maybe they should take it seriously.
Having run a volunteer service before, I can tell you there are a lot of people complaining about the free service. I would imagine the only alternative to doing what they do now is to either get more money and resources (sponsorship or paying customers) or to shut the service down.
What is a preferrable service, a "not great" service, or no service at all? I know I wouldn't have the energy to handle all the abuse I see them getting, I would just tell people to go away and go home and watch tv. I'm happy they have the energy to do what they're doing.
That's why I asked for SLA level services I can point people to who complain. I'd imagine most of them wouldn't want to pay anyway, but I hope it'll make them think about complaining too much about a free service.
I've run a volunteer/free hosting service since 1997 or so - it never ceases to amaze me how people will complain about free things, but when you ask them to pony up a little monthly support its like you killed their puppy. I just term people who are more of a hassle then they are worth. I confirmed that HE will offer paid tunnel services, however I think I have a good idea of why Andrew was having crazy ping times to some of the tunnel servers. Literally anything I do from my home DSL through qwest that goes through Seattle sometimes doubles or triples the latency as soon as I enter the GBLX network. If I go through my T1, which ends up taking routes through TWTelecom, latency is in the low 20ms-40ms. I have a feeling that there's severe capacity issues on certain networks (may it be specifically between qwest and gblx, or just gblx in general), and unfortunately the lack of ISPs taking native IPv6 seriously puts our dependencies on ipv4 networks that are being held together with duct tape and twine. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org