On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 7:12 AM nanoguser100 via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:

William,

The plan is to carve out a /24 for "Estonia" and have special servers on it. This would be the same /24 I'd have to use if I were to put a legitimate POP there. This also means I don't conflict with the real Germany.

I am just worried about violating the 'rules' of these providers and getting myself blacklisted from submitting corrections. Afterall the traceroute will still show us hitting a router in Germany before it hits my network. Traceroutes aren't the end all be all but it's a tell-tale sign.

I guess this is all ISP-reported info so it's not "illegal" or a violation in any way.

-Nanoguser100

I think it's safe to say that before anyone could be

held accountable for geolocation data, there would

have to *first* be a requirement that the data be able

to be reliably updated to be *correct*.

As we have not yet achieved a way of ensuring that

legitimate holders of IP resources can reliably update

the geolocation data, I think you can rest assured,

nobody will be holding you accountable for whatever

the geolocation data might show for a particular block

of addresses.

Now, if, as an industry, we had a consistent, reliable

way in which geolocation records could be updated

with a means to audit and ensure the updates are

being made only by the legitimate holders of the

number resources...*then* you might have reason

to be concerned.

But as of now, as evidenced by the number of

"how do I get my geolocation data updated"

emails sent to NANOG, which result in a flurry

of "meetoo" followups, no reasonable court

would ever give any legal credence to the

current data in the various geolocation

databases.

You can sleep soundly at night, whichever

road you may choose to take.

Matt