Hi Dave, Dave & NANOGrs, I keep NOC info current from Jared's wonderful site at http://puck.nether.net/ The incentive should be to update your peers with the 'human' sources via e-mail and update Jared's page with the 'role' sources. Palm-to-Palm beaming limits the distribution to those who should have a valid reason for the data (i.e. no sales/vendor). Yes, the updates are awkward... but I also have 'human' peering & NAP contacts subdivided out into Asia/Pac, US & Europe that I will not share unless you are a peer in that region. During APRICOT this week in Seoul I'll gladly beam NOC details to non-peers and peer details to peers after you give your details to add to the mix. Offer stands at each NANOG, RIPE, JPIX mtg., etc. BTW, Randy's network handles 'peering@' very well. Unfortunately too many other networks around the world haven't learned how standardization can help... Take care, -Ren Lauren F. Nowlin, ren@onyx.net / peering@onyx.net Director, Peering & Interconnects - http://www.onyx.net/peering/ Onyx Networks, Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Pacific Gateway Exchange Voice: 650-558-3262, Fax: 650-558-3160, Cellphone: 650-281-6963 At 09:34 PM 2/27/00 -0500, Dave Curado wrote:
What I think is import for the new engineers is to have a list of those phone numbers handy. Lauren Nowlin was nice enough to import her list of every noc into my Palm. I think it would be wonderfully useful to make such a Palm list public so every engineer can have it handy everywhere they are.
Or how about just text. I've often thought it would be a good idea to share the various phone numbers we all have -- the only problem is keeping the list up to date. As these numbers change quite a bit, some verification needs to be put in place.
Perhaps a text based list, in a given format, with a "last verified" date included. That would give the person using it some expectation of the validity of the number. If each contributor of a number would verify the numbers before contributing them, the work would be distributed, and would stand some chance of making the idea a reality.
If the format (schema) is set to something specific, people can do what they want with the information -- push it on to pilots, etc.