Sean Donelan wrote:
I don't know of any ISP that regularly (i.e. more than once) refuses to obey lawful orders of authorities in the relevant jurisdiction to take action.
No disagreement there, but take a look at the wording. "orders of authorities". Inference: It's ok if someone I'm leasing bandwidth to is spamming, sending out DoS attacks, child pornography. I don't have any subpoenas, therefore I won't take any actions.
The number of complaints isn't proof.
Should ISPs be responsible for the network stuff (traceability, disruption of service, etc) and let the appropriate authorities enforce the laws of each jurisdiction?
Scenario: I run silsdomain.com which is leasing facilities in donelanNetworks.com My infrastructure consists of insecure servers which have been compromised and are now: 1) sending spam 2) housing malware 3) running botnets 4) hosting child porn Concerned networker, individual, anyone contacts admins@donelanNetworks.com: ------ Dear Donelan Network Admins, We've been trying to get in touch with someone at silsdomain.com which is being hosted from your IP space. It has come to our attention that silsdomain has been carrying out illicit and illegal activities. We've attempted to contact someone directly at silsdomain to no avail and we have yet to receive resolution, we are now attempting to contact you in hopes of curtailing some of these activities. Sincerely, Someone else on the Internet ------ My inference from your message is, the appropriate response to an email or letter like this would be: ------ Dear Someone else on the Internet, What you may see as child porn, others may see as art. What you may think of botnet traffic, we've labeled academic penetration testing. What you may view as spam, we view as opt-out redirection to opt-in. What you view as malware, we view as enhanced features in Windows that offers you advertisements and the weather. We appreciate you contacting us however we are only a network provider and not an authority on law enforcement. So while child porn may be illegal in the US let us not forget in Japan it is ok to bed underage children. Please contact overwhelmed law enforcement authorities chasing terrorists and provide them with the information necessary to assess your claim. Sincerely DonelanNetworks Staff. ------ So let me not distort this any more than my own interpretation of your message. I understand the need for certain traffic to go through networks as evil as some traffic may be, perhaps there is an investigation already under way and sites are being left opened in hopes of "catching bigger fish". I also know factually that there are individuals in this industry who care about nothing more than making quarterly earnings and keeping their accounts in order. Personally, if I were a business owner, I would attempt my best to keep my networks in order and ensure that traffic being sent *from* my network to the world wasn't tainted in any shape form or fashion. What goes around comes around... Keep turning a blind eye to issues like botnets and spam... When the poop hits the fan and you are forced to curtail these activities when you've knowingly allowed them, they'll turn right back around and haunt you. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ J. Oquendo echo @infiltrated|sed 's/^/sil/g;s/$/.net/g' http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1383A743 "I hear much of people's calling out to punish the guilty, but very few are concerned to clear the innocent." Daniel Defoe