Thats not _that_ large a turnover, $6m, and $2.3m for salaries isnt that big. Altho I wonder what the $1m of fringe benefits are! Not for profit simply means the company keeps hold of any profits it makes and reinvests/reduces fees as a result. It doesnt stop you paying senior staff large salaries tho as thats wages overhead not profit... Steve On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Brian Johnson wrote:
I thought ARIN was a not-for-profit organization. Like a co-op.
I want a cut as I am an ARIN member. :-)
- Brian J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix@techmonkeys.org> To: "Richard A Steenbergen" <ras@e-gerbil.net>; <nanog@merit.edu> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Independent space from ARIN
On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 02:21:01AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
* Why do we have to pay very large sums of money ($2500+ per year at a minimum) for this wonderful IP policing service. Where in the heck
does
all that money go?
From http://www.arin.net/library/corp_docs/budget.html :
Out of the $7,861,700.00 they raked in last year:
SALARIES $2,326,653.85 FRINGE BENEFITS $1,045,063.15 HIRING COSTS $75,000.00 TRAVEL AND CONFERENCE $631,732.40 COMMUNICATIONS $236,699.62 COMPUTER $118,941.75 DEPRECIATION $445,750.00 RENT & OCCUPANCY $461,287.00 GENERAL OFFICE $192,400.00 LEGAL FEES $100,000.00 Legal Defense Fund $200,000.00 ICANN SUPPORT $188,480.00 Other Internet Support - Merit & ISOC $100,000.00 LACNIC SUPPORT $66,000.00 CONSULTING $184,000.00 Total $6,372,007.76
In other words, they're milking the cash cow.
* Why are we expected to continue the status quo of paying thousands of dollars for addresses in IPv6? Without the threat of an artifical shortage to "manage", what possible reason is there to justify ARIN's existance or fees? Why do we all get the feeling IPv6 isn't an end to the expenses, but rather a vast new market of registration and renewal fees?
Because the owners of the cash cow don't want it to go away.
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