Hi, ( it might be a bit much to look for that here, but meh its Friday ) Goals Usual Multi-point L2 services, with L3 path(s) to the Internet -and/or- inter-site L3 routing (VRF per customer). This is a simple project involving upgrading a L2 MAN into and more flexible and isolated (MACs wise) MPLS infrastructure. Road blocks We're wasting way too much time with sales rep/engineer, for then, ending up finding some irrelevant limitation after having spent ~20h of man power looking at their offering. Question ( Obviously interoperability is just ridiculous when talking MPLS... ) Thus I'm looking for reference designs from different vendor viewpoint. Simple enough, but I would like to put the "make/model of the actual device capable" of doing the function at the P, PE and CE level of their design. Too many times we ended up finding boxes that look the part but are limited in such a way to accomplish only the task that fit the vendor own MPLS paradigm. ( TLDR: Make us spend more $$$ than needed =D long gone is the swiss-knife concept ) Offlist answers are fine.