I don't think there's anything wrong with sounding out some ideas if they arose from careful thought and sufficient experience and subject knowledge. Just saying call us when you've got a unicorn in hand is a brush-off. But one has to find the right venue for such brainstorming which I think is the real problem here. And of course being willing to be shot down and just go back to the drawing board if one ever really got so far as a "drawing board". I'll admit this dombox thing has gotten that far even if some were dissatisfied with the "drawings", clearly a lot of work has gone into the idea. But venue might be everything. A very large list oriented towards operational issues is probably not the right venue unless one really believes most everyone will see the brilliance of a solution after reading a short paragraph and perhaps even want to help or at least become motivated to read further. And if you don't get that then, well, time for some introspection. Quite a few of us, myself included, did go and read at least enough of the long whitepaper to respond with a lot more in specifics than "call us when you have your unicorn". -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*