Hi, NANOGers. ] If folks were to implement explicit prefix filtering ] *everywhere* it wouldn't be necessary to filter only ] bogons and other miscellany explicitly. Agreed! Simple edge filters make this problem go away. While I and the rest of Team Cymru are happy to provide this service, we will gladly find other things to do if folks ubiquitously employ edge prefix filters. :) We attempt to convey this sort of thing in our templates. If folks need assistance building their filters, feel free to ping on us. We charge only the occasional cup of coffee. :) <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bgp-template.html> <http://www.qorbit.net/documents/junos-bgp-appnote.htm> ] ...no offense Rob, I'm pretty sure our beliefs are aligned here :-). None taken, I completely agree. Thanks, Rob, not just the "bogon guy." :) -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);