PWG> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 06:53:49 -0500 PWG> From: Patrick W. Gilmore PWG> But back to your original point, how can you tell it is shit data? AFAIK, RFC 3514 is the only standards document that has addressed this. I have yet to see it implemented. ;-) Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita ________________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: davidc@brics.com -*- jfconmaapaq@intc.net -*- sam@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter.