[Somebody]
[...] Since Digex is at too few NAPs to peer with AGIS, and they are not at the CIX, we see no routes from them.
[Paul Vixie]
CIX is taking new connections, either T1, PB-SMDS, or DEC-PAIX (FDDI/Ether).
[Enke Chen]
I have been thinking about a couple of issues regarding the CIX Inter-exchange, and your comments would be appreciated:
(1) CIX is an association of ISPs. The CIX Inter-exchange puts CIX in direct competition with its members (ISPs) for customers. Is there a contradiction here?
(2) The CIX Inter-exchange has been used by some to bypass peering policies. I am wondering if the CIX Inter-exchange remains a viable option in the peering policy review.
(3) Today there are quite a few inter-exchanges in the Bay Area that are superior (in terms of tech. and richness in connectivity) than the CIX Interexchange. Is it fair to say that the CIX Inter-exchange has fulfilled its historical mission and is no longer needed?
Enke, (1) CIX is a membership organization which facilitates voluntary connectivity between its members. CIX doesn't have a product or a service, it's a nonprofit industry trade association more or less on legal par with the California Egg Association. The contradiction is in your description not the facts. (2) If MCI doesn't like the routes CIX sends them, they should not accept those routes. If MCI doesn't want CIX to hear certain routes, they should not send them. If MCI derives no benefit from CIX, they should consider dropping either their CIX connection or their entire membership. (I hope that they don't -- the industry as a whole, which CIX's charter says it is here to do good things for, benefits from the kind of "peering policy bypass" that I think you're complaining about here.) (3) The other peering points are homogeneous. You need to buy a circuit from Pac Bell or MFS in order to join either of those peering points, and there is no level-3 connectivity. A lot of ISP's, especially international ones, find one or both of those requirements onerous. I do see a continuing mission for CIX, else I would not still be consulting for the association. In general, there is a mistaken view that L1/L2 exchanges can be cooperative but that L3 exchanges have to be competitive. Neither definition is accurate. Thanks for bringing these important issues to everyone's attention, I'm always glad to have a red carpet rolled out in front of my views on this subject. Paul