On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 10:09:20PM -0500, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
For the others on this list, if you are a UUNET customer you can call our Security Department if you ever have any issues with security, DoS, fraud, spam, or the like. If you are under DoS attack either one of my engineers will stop and track the attack, or I will do it... it's what we get paid to do. If you are NOT a UUNET customer you know that other ISP's (Tier 1's atleast) do NOT filter attack traffic, and they do NOT track attacks. The ONLY exceptions to this are: Genuity, Global Crossing and at one time Verio.
The only exceptions that you know of perhaps. As a former employee of AT&T Global Network Services (ibm.net), I know for a fact that AGNS responded promptly to any DoS reports called into our helpdesk, regardless of whether they were a paying customer, downstream of a customer or a peer. I would also like to know UUNETs policy for peers, as I have first hand experience of other large ISPs who's helpdesks refused to take my phone call for assistance in tracking and blocking an on going attack because "you must be mistaken, the only way you would have a pipe into our network is if you are a customer". I do remember uunet.ca being very responsive on at least one occasion, but its distressing to know that you've spent time and effort tracking an attack across your network only to come up against a brick wall... and then know thta you're going to have performance problems with that peer until the attack stops, and yet that peer is not willing to even talk to you. -- John Payne http://www.sackheads.org/jpayne/ john@sackheads.org http://www.sackheads.org/uce/ Fax: +44 870 0547954 To send me mail, use the address in the From: header