We performed some high-level analyses on these hyper-specific
prefixes about a year ago and pushed some insights into a blog
post [1] and a paper [2].
While not many ASes redistribute these prefixes, some accept and
use them for their internal routing (e.g., NTT's IPv4 filtering
policy [3]). Rob already pointed out that this is often sufficient
for many traffic engineering tasks. In the remaining scenarios,
announcing a covering /24 and hyper-specific prefixes may result
in some traffic engineering, even if the predictability of the
routing impact is closer to path prepending than usual
more-specific announcements. In contrast to John's claim, some
transit ASes explicitly enabled redistributions of up to /28s for
their customers upon request (at least, they told us so during
interviews).
Accepting and globally redistributing all hyper-specifics
increases the routing table size by >100K routes (according to
what route collectors see). There are also about 2-4
de-aggregation events every year in which some origin
(accidentally) leaks some large number of hyper-specifics to its
neighbours for a short time.
Best regards,
Lars
[1]
https://blog.apnic.net/2022/09/01/measuring-hyper-specific-prefixes-in-the-wild/
[2] https://dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3544912.3544916
[3]
https://www.gin.ntt.net/support-center/policies-procedures/routing/
I have two thoughts in relation to this:
1) It's amazing how many threads end up ending in the (correct) summary that making an even minor global change to the way the internet works and/or is configured to enable some potentially useful feature isn't likely to happen.
2) I'd really like to be able to tag a BGP announcement with "only use this announcement as an absolute last resort" so I don't have to break my prefixes in half in those cases where I have a backup path that needs to only be used as a last resort. (Today each prefix I have to do this with results in 3 prefixes in the table where one would do).
And yes. I know #2 is precluded from actually ever happening because of #1. The irony is not lost on me.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 7:54 PM John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
It appears that Chris J. Ruschmann <chris@scsalaska.net> said:
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>How do you plan on getting rid of all the filters that don’t accept anything less than a /24?
>
>In all seriousness If I have these, I’d imagine everyone else does too.
Right. Since the Internet has no settlements, there is no way to
persuade a network of whom you are not a customer to accept your
announcements if they don't want to, and even for the largest
networks, that is 99% of the other networks in the world. So no,
they're not going to accept your /25 no matter how deeply you believe
that they should.
I'm kind of surprised that we haven't seen pushback against sloppily
disaggregated announcements. It is my impression that the route table
would be appreciably smaller if a few networks combined adjacent a
bunch of /24's into larger blocks.
R's,
John