On Fri, 1 May 2009, William F. Maton Sotomayor wrote:
LOC records too. :-)
dig @prisoner.iana.org hostname.as112.net any
Have this seen any widespread use? I mean, there needs to be tens of
I wouldn't mind create LOC records for our IP address ranges, but doesn't make much sense if the "GeoIP people" don't look at it or care. Hence the need for someone who is relevant to them to open the dialog. I've never received a negative comment when submitting a correction request to "GeoIP people". Of course, they don't make it really easy to do so and it seems that half the time it needs to be done via back-channels. Of course the "GeoIP people" are going to vet the submissions, but if existing entry is Spain or Germany and the traceroute shows that the previous hop was somewhere in the US midwest, I think they can figure it out. =) I'm sure they have mechanisms to track changes and new allocations, but some things will slip through the cracks or in the case of use sales data, be delayed. The process that I'm suggesting is for corrective action, not to be the basis for the "GeoIP people" to build their database. That's why I'm suggesting a comprehensive form that gets sent to all the "GeoIP people". It's a way they can receive requests in a systematic way that can help them improve the accuracy of their database. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Peter Beckman [mailto:beckman@angryox.com] Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 4:23 PM To: Mikael Abrahamsson Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: how to fix incorrect GeoIP data? On Fri, 1 May 2009, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: percent
of users having these before they'll get used by the GeoIP people.
People who are evil (or people seeking privacy) will intentionally put bad data, thus ruining the whole thing. I don't think self-reporting is the answer. You MIGHT be able to determine location based on a traceroute, though anycast would surely derail such attempts. I suspect most people rely on 3rd party GeoIP databases, and that those companies aren't interested in hearing from you about your location change, mostly because they are worried that if they do, the evildoers will overrun them with bad requests, or bait and switch, making their data less accurate than it is now without your block being correct. Which I can understand. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman@angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------