Hi Folks - Clay Kossmeyer here from the Cisco PSIRT. We've published the following document in response to the original (Dec. 29) Der Spiegel article: http://tools.cisco.com/security/center/content/CiscoSecurityResponse/cisco-s... and are investing the claims in the Dec. 30 Der Spiegel article referencing 'persistent implants' for the PIX and ASA product lines under case number PSIRT-1384943056. Any vulnerabilities we discover will be disclosed via our standard vulnerability handling process documented here: http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/psirt/security_vulnerability_policy.... I'm not currently subscribed to NANOG, so if you have a reply you'd like me to see, please copy me directly. Regards, Clay ----- Found some interesting news on one of the Australia news websites. http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/368527,nsa-able-to-compromise-cisco-junipe... Regards, Steven.