On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 16:25:39 -0400 Scott Reed <sreed@nwwnet.net> wrote:
Why would the assumption be the ISP = knowledgeable or even caring about RIRs, etc.?
When I started my ISP 6 years ago I knew someone issued IP addresses to my upstream provider, but I really didn't care who that was. The upstream took care of everything related to getting and assigning addresses as far as I was concerned. Even when I changed upstream providers they took care of the addresses. It was at that time I realized I need to learn more about the whole IP address assignment process so I wouldn't have to renumber next time I changed providers. I dug far enough to find that my ISP was not big enough to get an assignment and the required fee was more than the cost to renumber, so I didn't look any farther.
So, as a log of start-ups and small businesses do, I learned enough to make what I needed work, but not everything that may have been beneficial.
So maybe to state the obvious, IPv4 != IPv6, and therefore in Jack's situation something different needs to be done, such as those ISPs learning about RIRs, LIRs etc. sooner rather than later.
On 10/26/2010 3:20 PM, George Bonser wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Jack Bates [mailto:jbates@brightok.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:23 AM To: Randy Carpenter Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated?
On 10/26/2010 1:01 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:
Wait... If you are issuing space to ISPs that are multihomed, they should be getting their own addresses. Even if they aren't multihomed, they should probably be getting their own addresses. Why would you be supplying them with address space if they are an ISP?
Because they are my customer. They don't know much about RIRs, paying membership fees, etc. They just know they want address space, and I provide that. If they are ISPs and don't know much about RIRs, can you please name them and provide their ASNs ... oh, wait ... they won't have an ASN if they don't know about RIRs and fees and such.
Something isn't passing the smell test here.
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