Dear NANOG-ers,<div>Hope this email finds you in good health!</div><div><br></div><div>Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br>Le vendredi 11 mars 2022, Brandon Price &lt;<a href="mailto:PriceB@sherwoodoregon.gov">PriceB@sherwoodoregon.gov</a>&gt; a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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From: NANOG &lt;nanog-bounces+priceb=<a href="mailto:sherwoodoregon.gov@nanog.org">sherwood<wbr>oregon.gov@nanog.org</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Bill Woodcock<br>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 11:37 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org">nanog@nanog.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions<br>
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&gt;Perhaps not.  My goal is to minimize Internet disconnection.  Maybe that’s not your goal.  I was trying to give what you wrote the most generous possible interpretation.<br>
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There is no realistic way for these disconnects to happen now, as acknowledged by the fifth principal in the draft. How does creating a framework to accomplish this do anything other than increase the disconnects?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Brandon,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your email, brother!</div><div><br></div><div>You put forward a good objection for this proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>...i think the proposal is a wise idea, but imho it can</div><div> not touch the root-causes of the problem at hand.</div><div><br></div><div>It seems to be the same approach as the anti-shutdown</div><div> DPP (Draft Policy Proposal) [1].</div><div>__</div><div>[1]: &lt;<a href="https://afrinic.net/policy/archive/anti-shutdown-02/amp">https://afrinic.net/policy/archive/anti-shutdown-02/amp</a>&gt;</div><div><br></div><div>Applying sanctions to a country has side effects... :&#39;-(</div><div><br></div><div>To figure it out, one should look at the below scenario:</div><div><br></div><div>~°~</div><div>1] This draft proposal reaches a rough consensus</div><div>2] A selection is done to build the Operational Team (OT) </div><div>3] The OT agrees on a rough consensus on the </div><div>decision to apply specific sanctions on a given </div><div>country government&#39;s Internet infrastructure used </div><div>to spread their &quot;propaganda&quot; globaly...</div><div>4] The OT implements the consensual decision</div><div>5] The Internet&#39;s infrastructure of that ccGov is </div><div>shutdown. No more trafic from it to the Internet!</div><div>6] That ccGov decides to cut the rest of the </div><div>Internet&#39;s interconnexions of their country to the </div><div>Internet...</div><div>7] The whole country is unreacheable from the Internet</div><div>8] That ccGov is the only source of &quot;information&quot;</div><div> within their country boundaries </div><div>9] ...</div><div>~°~</div><div><br></div><div>As the draft proposal seems to target cc Governments,</div><div> practically speaking, then what if the policy-decision</div><div> to be implemented concerns the usGov?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Shalom,</div><div>--sb.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Brandon<br>
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