On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:37 PM, james machado wrote:
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:42 PM, james machado wrote:
Lets look at some issues here.
1) it's unlikely that a "normal" household with 2.5 kids and a dog/cat will be able to qualify for their own end user assignment from ARIN.
Interesting...
I have a "normal household". I lack 2.5 kids and have no dog or cat.
I have my own ARIN assignment.
Are you saying that the 2.5 kids and the dog/cat would disqualify them? I can't find such a statement in ARIN policy.
Are you saying that a household that multihomes is abnormal? Perhaps today, but, not necessarily so in the future.
Yes I am saying a household that mulithomes is abnormal and with today's and contracted monopolies I expect that to continue. You are not a normal household in that 1) you multihome 2) you are willing to pay $1500+ US a year for your own AS, IP assignments
while I don't disagree with the assertion that this is unrealistic the annual fee is $100 per org-id for direct assignments.
sorry was unclear - I was guessing $1500+ for ASnumer + IP Assignments but not counting ISP costs for a year. Looks like ARIN is charging about $1250 per year for a new IPv6 assignment and the AS yearly cost is rolled into that. Granted ISP costs will probably be in the ballpark of $150 per month for 2 consumer grade connections and more for business or better connections.
James
No, you still have it wrong. There is a one-time charge of $500 for your ASN and $1250 for your /48. After that, it is just $100/year, period. The ISP costs do not have to be significantly more than what you already pay for commodity access. My ISP costs total roughly $140/month, but, for that I am subscribing to 50Mbps down and 7Mbps up and usually get about 70Mbps down and close to 10Mbps up as well as a slower DSL circuit for backup. Yes, it's more than $20/month, but, decent business class service from one provider is going to be around $60/month or more. So, if you double that ($120), you're not far off from what I'm paying and for the small incremental cost, I'm getting quite a bit more. Owen