2r7rtqAer2*2sQa#* Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: nanog-request@nanog.org Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:10:36 To: <nanog@nanog.org> Reply-To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: NANOG Digest, Vol 49, Issue 84 Send NANOG mailing list submissions to nanog@nanog.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nanog-request@nanog.org You can reach the person managing the list at nanog-owner@nanog.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NANOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Colo Vending Machine (George Bonser) 2. Re: Common operational misconceptions (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu) 3. RE: Colo Vending Machine (Erik Soosalu) 4. Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine (Bill Blackford) 5. RE: Colo Vending Machine (Nathan Eisenberg) 6. Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine (Sven Olaf Kamphuis) 7. RE: Colo Vending Machine (Sven Olaf Kamphuis) 8. Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine (Matthew S. Crocker) 9. Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine (Mike Lyon) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:03:44 +0000 From: George Bonser <gbonser@seven.com> To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine Message-ID: <596B74B410EE6B4CA8A30C3AF1A155EA09CD0995@RWC-MBX1.corp.seven.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Diagonal cutters Screwdriver with interchangeable Phillips/straight blade Small flashlight (with the data center provider's logo even!) Headlamp Small mirror (inspection mirror) Rack screws Zip ties Velcro ties Sharpie markers Pens Notebook of shirt pocket size with pages that can be easily torn out for leaving notes. Post-It Assortment of electrical tape in various colors. SFPs (optical and RJ-45, short and long range) USB stick (sans viruses) Patch cords 1, 3, 5 meter. Copper, multi-mode, single-mode fiber USB to DB9 dongle (with driver on USB stick or one the computer can discover on the Internet) Standard charger of sort used for most smart phones these days or the proper USB cable (micro USB) The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept cash. You should be able to "charge" the card with some cash via a web portal and keep the card in the facility in your space. If something is needed, one can purchase it with the card. If there is no money on the card, a person can add cash to the card via a web portal somewhere. Scenario: remote hands guy arrives on site, needs an SFP, card doesn't have enough money on it, calls me, I can add the cash to the card, he can purchase the SFP and leave the card in the space for the next time it is needed. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:04:45 -0500 From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Common operational misconceptions Message-ID: <39313.1329505485@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:49:13 PST, Owen DeLong said:
Now, come on... If you're in the 40-50 range, you should have put octal before hex. :p
IBM S/360 definitely preferred hex. And EBCDIC. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 865 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/attachments/20120217/7e04a136/attachment-0001.bin> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:06:37 -0500 From: "Erik Soosalu" <erik.soosalu@calyxinc.com> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine Message-ID: <0B224A2FE01CC54C860290D42474BF60052D54C2@exchange.nff.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I know I'm being a freaking idealist. My tool bag carries all my required sets of screws and cage nuts. Works great until the first level guy decides to borrow something and not put it back. Thanks, Erik -----Original Message----- From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis [mailto:sven@cb3rob.net] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:02 PM To: Erik Soosalu Cc: NANOG Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Erik Soosalu wrote:
1) Patch cables every 1' length from 3-10' 2) Velcro wrap 3) Tools (screwdrivers, etc)
And since the racks usually come with the cage nuts, maybe the colo should just provide them.
they do? nonono, you have to buy those seperately :P racks don't even come with "doors" and "side walls" etc by default *grin* you have to buy them seperately anyway if you want to make sure your company uses all the same ones, so you don't have to take them out again and replace them because some fukkin idiot put the wrong size into the hole as it "came with something else"
Thanks, Erik
-----Original Message----- From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:jra@baylink.com] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:35 PM To: NANOG Subject: WW: Colo Vending Machine
Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off.
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:06:50 -0800 From: Bill Blackford <bblackford@gmail.com> To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine Message-ID: <CAMv18OMe0TW1iNdv6C0XkEO6FCL5jmDbU0EsQFEevHSbhih=bw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 1. patch cables. MMF and SMF, LC and SC and LC/SC to include LC and SC couplers so one can mix-and-match 2. Velcro wraps. 3. cage nuts/bolts -b On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off.
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Baylink ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? jra@baylink.com Designer ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The Things I Think ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates ? ? http://baylink.pitas.com ? ? ? ? 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA ? ? ?http://photo.imageinc.us ? ? ? ? ? ? +1 727 647 1274
-- Bill Blackford Network Engineer Logged into reality and abusing my sudo privileges..... ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:06:29 +0000 From: Nathan Eisenberg <nathan@atlasnetworks.us> To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine Message-ID: <8C26A4FDAE599041A13EB499117D3C286B7B90A1@ex-mb-2.corp.atlasnetworks.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off.
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
USB A/B/Mini/Micro/Nano/Pico/etc/etc/etc cables Spare parts (common sizes of RAM/Disks/Fans) New servers (probably don't fit in a vending machine, but in that dark place where you need a new box *TONIGHT*, this could be a godsend) Generically sized hoodie or sweatshirt. Datacenters can get really cold if you're in there longer than expected. Advil/Ibuprofen/Generic OTC Pain Reliever Cisco Console Cables Outside of a vending machine, I've also seen a few facilities that have normal vending machines (including instant coffee dispensers). This has, on more than one occasion, kept me standing long enough to get the jorb done. Nathan Eisenberg ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:07:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven@cb3rob.net> To: Tom Perrine <tperrine@scea.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1202171904350.32438@a84-22-97-10.cb3rob.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed if a pop doesn't come with a hotel with a bar in front of the door, or at least around the corner, and preferably free beer, coffee, etc in the cantina as well, we're not a customer of theirs haha. headace tables are good.. but then again, with noise protectors you would not get the headace in the first place :P and a buttwarmer to sit on the floor (or maybe even a chair!) On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Tom Perrine wrote:
On 2/17/12 10:52 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off.
Pizza, condoms and headache tablets.
Stone Brewery Arrogant Bastard beer - "A bitter brew for your bitter life", "You are not worthy"
------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:09:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven@cb3rob.net> To: George Bonser <gbonser@seven.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: RE: Colo Vending Machine Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1202171908450.32438@a84-22-97-10.cb3rob.net> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed or you just use your datacenter access rfid pass to pay and they put it on the bill later on. -- Greetings, Sven Olaf Kamphuis, CB3ROB Ltd. & Co. KG ========================================================================= Address: Koloniestrasse 34 VAT Tax ID: DE267268209 D-13359 Registration: HRA 42834 B BERLIN Phone: +31/(0)87-8747479 Germany GSM: +49/(0)152-26410799 RIPE: CBSK1-RIPE e-Mail: sven@cb3rob.net ========================================================================= <penpen> C3P0, der elektrische Westerwelle http://www.facebook.com/cb3rob ========================================================================= Confidential: Please be advised that the information contained in this email message, including all attached documents or files, is privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual or individuals addressed. Any other use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, George Bonser wrote:
Diagonal cutters Screwdriver with interchangeable Phillips/straight blade Small flashlight (with the data center provider's logo even!) Headlamp Small mirror (inspection mirror) Rack screws Zip ties Velcro ties Sharpie markers Pens Notebook of shirt pocket size with pages that can be easily torn out for leaving notes. Post-It Assortment of electrical tape in various colors. SFPs (optical and RJ-45, short and long range) USB stick (sans viruses) Patch cords 1, 3, 5 meter. Copper, multi-mode, single-mode fiber USB to DB9 dongle (with driver on USB stick or one the computer can discover on the Internet) Standard charger of sort used for most smart phones these days or the proper USB cable (micro USB)
The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept cash. You should be able to "charge" the card with some cash via a web portal and keep the card in the facility in your space. If something is needed, one can purchase it with the card. If there is no money on the card, a person can add cash to the card via a web portal somewhere. Scenario: remote hands guy arrives on site, needs an SFP, card doesn't have enough money on it, calls me, I can add the cash to the card, he can purchase the SFP and leave the card in the space for the next time it is needed.
------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:10:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew S. Crocker" <matthew@corp.crocker.com> To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine Message-ID: <dcc840de-e8d1-4d40-8cbd-786df3754194@zimbra1.crocker.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Serial cables, DB9 -> USB converts and all of the various vendor adapters to make it work. WTSHTF I'm always digging through my gear looking for the right serial adapter. Duct tape, paper clips and chewing gum. If it was good enough for McGyver it is good enough for me. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:35:15 PM Subject: WW: Colo Vending Machine
Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off.
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:10:28 -0800 From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> To: Tom Perrine <tperrine@scea.com> Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine Message-ID: <CAFFgAjCbD959ScZe2C21fo3Q1a5JYkdEtOcu+RJ=YrUMAxMYBg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 1. BNC tees 2. FDDI cables 3. AUI to BNC adapters. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Tom Perrine <tperrine@scea.com> wrote:
On 2/17/12 10:52 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off.
Pizza, condoms and headache tablets.
Stone Brewery Arrogant Bastard beer - "A bitter brew for your bitter life", "You are not worthy"
-- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.lyon@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon End of NANOG Digest, Vol 49, Issue 84 *************************************