This request is largely for anecdotal/historical purposes. The recent Foundry/Riverstone posts reminded me of a topic I'd kept meaning to broach. My organization will probably be replacing all of our L2/L3 Lucent/Avaya Cajun switches in the next few months with Catalyst 65XX series boxes. Our experience has largely been disastrous - 3 operational years have been filled with _constant_ HW and SW failures, buggy code (i.e. backplane suddenly stops all traffic forwarding), horrible tech support, lousy online resources (a la SW releases). Their M770 ATM gear hasn't been much better, and their PacketStar media gateways are still, surprisingly, limping along. Anyone care to share their own Lucent/Avaya experiences? Please feel free to reply off-list and I will provide an anonymous summary. Thanks. --- Andy Grosser, CCNP andy@meniscus.org ---