Well said. What happened to ihighway? On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, John M. Brown wrote: : :Having been a participant of the NANOG list since 1995, twice :a past host of the meetings, and someone that believes we should :help and educate, I am most concerned over the trend that is :showing itself here on the list. : :This is a list about knowledge, share, help, and operations. : :Some on this list are "Old Pro's" others are just "Old ....." : :I see new names, new faces, sometimes the same questions, sometimes :slight variences of those questions. : :What then happens is people attack the sender (heck I've even been :slightly guilty of this), banish them to newbie.dev.nul. : :Threads move quickly from the question to debates on random junk :and thus become a waste to the community. : :When I first got on the Internet, 1984, it was full of cooperative :and helpful people. 18 years later, not so much. : :We have real issues to deal with, DMCA, Clarke, The Implosion of ICANN :(with means the ITU will run things me thinks, not good), and various :other laws, acts and general clue.void from .void.gov. : :So instead of picking on each other, calling it "standard NANOG hazing" :or whatever, lets help, be good in our technical honesty, or don't :post. If someone doesn't listen to your answer, a BIGGER stick isn't :going to help, take it private, or move along. : :We are all pro's here, right ?? We got a net to run, lets go do it. : :respectfully, : :john brown :a person not speaking for anyone else : :