On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 5:15 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:05 PM, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I'd say it's pretty badly broken if Yahoo intends for their web mail to continue to be a general purpose mail system for consumers. If they want to make it something else, that's certainly their right, but it would have been nice if they'd given us some advance warning so we could take the yahoo.com addresses off our lists.
Meh. This just means list software will have to rewrite the From header to "From: John Levine <nanog@nanog.org>" and rely on the Reply-To header for anybody who wants to send a message back to the originator.
Or perhaps DMARC can go back to it's original goal. Go here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base/ Notice the early versions of the spec contained the word "transactional", notice the current version has it removed. Also notice that one of the authors is from Yahoo!.
Maybe this is a good thing - we can stop getting all the "sorry I'm out of the office" emails when posting to a list.
The OoO problem is a Client/MUA problem. Most (other than Lotus Notes, and some older copies of Outlook) properly tag OoO emails with well-defined headers (RFC 3834). -Jim P.