Well, just as I was about to give CAIS the heave-ho, I find that CAIS is one of the first companies to tell UUNET to shove-it. See: http://www.prnewswire.com:80/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/oracle/dbtmp/111126&EDATE= (The above URL is one line.) And http://www.clark.net/pub/rbenn/debate.html This is cool. CAIS, has my complete support! GIVE 'EM HELL GUYS!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles F. Crizer Jr. KF4MNE Senior Systems Engineer ccrizer@dyncon.net Certified Novell Administrator http://www.cais.com/dyncon -------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright 1997 Charles F. Crizer Jr. All Rights Reserved.