btw, i just remembered something from the distant past which is relevant to geoff's stuff on the wsis geo allocation kink. jon postel tried per-country allocations back in the late '80s. this was especially in the new african networks. e.g. a block to south africa etc. both south africa and jon found it to be a disaster and backed out. uneven policy. big waste. horrible local political pressure on the local allocator. ... it was a mess and gained nothing. unfortunately jon has since died, as has vic shaw the main guy on the south african end. but folk over there such as mike lawrie, jacot guillarmad, chris pinkham, alan barrett should remember. and i have some of the email, fwiw. not that any of this will change the minds of those thinking this a path to increased power. randy