On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Tony Tauber wrote:
The registries (including IANA as their root) should provide just that, a place to register the use of number resources to avoid collisions. I'm thinking that "private" number spaces should probably be used advisedly if not deprecated outright.
RIR's are taking heat (or some finger pointing atleast) for allocations that don't appear in the public route table. There are many reasons why the allocation might not appear in the table, I'm not convinced that measuring the public table is any real way to measure 'in use' status for ip space, though it's one gauge people seem to be using. If there is a legittimate need to use some ip space NOT in a public manner, one for which 1918 might not be appropriate, perhaps having a registration method 'in region' (with the RIR's who already have the machinations to do ip number registrations and delegations) would make some sense? I recall, I believe, a policy proposal 1 or 2 ARIN's ago that would have included some form of 'private' or 'public' stamp/category on ip registration data? Perhaps reviving that, or making a new one, would be in order? How do the currently allocated folks feel about sending in registration info now? Assume no payment, or minimum payment for registration 'work' in included? Would we be able to get all of the relevant parties to sign up/register/keep-up-to-date ? Example registered but not 'routed': 7.0.0.0/8 Would we want to change whois output to include the 'pub/priv' flag? or perhaps I completely missed the mark? :)
I could add more detail if desired for the sake of clarity.
I'd like to see some acknowledgement that there are legitimate uses of number resources that don't include "the public Internet".
I'm curious where the 'non-legitimate' use came from? (or why the perception is that the only legitimate use is 'public Internet', having a nutjob internal network at work with all manner of kookiness built into it I know of atleast 1 large network that has parts not routed or available in the 'public internet', previous jobs give other good examples as well.)
ps. My goal is not to inflame, merely to discuss and educate.
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