chris rollin wrote:
Shon wrote:
Seth,
I said it could be, not that it is. Thanks for pointing that out. However, I believe the reason they are being blocked at AT&T is the main reason I supplied on my first post. The DDoS attack issue is the main ticket here.
The ACK storms arent coming from the 4chan servers It's just like the DNS attack (IN/NS/.). It points to the stupidity of AT&T uppers SANS: Are you or arent you soliciting data? I have some to confirm also
Actually, they are. They are returning responses to hundreds of thousands of SPOOFED SYN requests. Where do you think those are gonna go? The ACKs are gonna come back to the network in which IPs were SPOOFed from, essentially, causing a DDoS on a network not even really involved.
It's not because of content, or to piss people off. It's to protect their network, as any of you would do when you got DDoSed on your own networks.
They are going to get some first hand experience in what Protecting their Network involves real soon, now. Blocking 4chan was an exercise in Stupidity
Is that some kind of threat or what? Why would you even make a statement like that?
It's damage control,
It's a damage challenge.
essentially, until they find out who is involved and block them, then they'll likely lift the block.
They don't have the right to do this. Not in their TOS/EULA/User-Agreement. Not in any sane legal forum. (I*A*AL)
They don't have the right to protect their network? So you're saying, if someone is DDoSing your network either direct or indirect, the network operator is just supposed to sit there and do nothing while all of it's customers get crappy internet service because of something they probably don't even know about or care about.
This ISN'T the first time this has happened.
Don't cut it off there. This ISN'T the first time it's happened, as 4chan goes through DDoSes from script kiddies on a regular basis, and it harms lots of networks along the way in the process.
Exactly.
Now you see the problem ?
The problem is the DDoS attacks. Not AT&T. 4chan's users constantly instigate this. Chris Poole needs to do more than just sit back and watch. He needs to start collecting this information and turning it in to the authorities, because all of this is convered under domestic terrorism as a cyber-crime. I'm betting there's reasons why he hasn't. He's afraid to get into trouble himself on some of the content that's posted to /b/... whether it's there 5 seconds or 5 minutes.