On 04/08/2010 11:00 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
Is this just an argument about the money? Or, are there other issues ("you agree that we can revoke your allocation at any time, for any reason, as we see fit")?
I'd be curious to know what the justification for such a policy would be under v6. Even if space were obtained under false pretenses, the cost of reclaiming it (in terms of lawsuits, etc) is essentially being shoveled onto the shoulders of others who have received allocations.
As I understand it ARIN does not like to reclaim space forcibly for this very reason. It's costly and they'd much rather resolve matters amicably and allow people to keep their resources. It's true that anyone that does accept terms to their IP allocations opens the possibility up, but recall that ARIN has a open and public policy making process. If they are going to change something and begin demanding IPs back from certain holders, if you are attentive to the process you should have plenty of opportunity to a) find out, and b) make your displeasure very clear. If you are a member, paying your dues, you also have the right to vote for those people who make the final decisions. But more to the point, how often do you hear that ARIN has decided to come to any IPv4 holder and just take back their allocation without cause?
It seems like you could run an RIR more cheaply by simply handing out the space fairly liberally, which would have the added benefit of encouraging v6 adoption. The lack of a need for onerous contractual clauses as suggested above, combined with less overhead costs, ought to make v6 really cheap.
This is the current policy, even with respect to IPv4 to a large degree, at least for ARIN. As long as you can establish a fairly evident need for portable address space and can give them a vague plan for allocating it over time, they'll give you want you want, as long as you can pay the appropriate (and I feel quite reasonable) annual fees. -- Kevin Stange Chief Technology Officer Steadfast Networks http://steadfast.net Phone: 312-602-2689 ext. 203 | Fax: 312-602-2688 | Cell: 312-320-5867