25 years or so from now when the internet is basically a big CATV-like service someone will write a book about how "SPAM Ate The Internet". And a few other things, among them: Phase II: Ham Eats The Internet. Now that every marcom, billing, etc dept and their pet dog has figured out they can send almost unlimited email, billions of them, just about for free and if they have any sort of recognizable corporate identity they won't be challenged by intermediaries (end users might try) watch as you get 100, 500, 1000... emails/day from them collectively. Hey it was just *one* email/day...from each of the Fortune 1000, and their subsidiaries, and their agents, and... But that's ok, the new masters of this universe will just charge both ends for each and every email (perhaps a few included free with your Hulu or Netflix subscription) and old timers will talk about how great it was back in the old days when you could run lists like nanog for roughly nothing tho I don't know where they'll talk about that. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs@TheWorld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*