I think that you are referring to the Nortel/Alteon product line. http://www.nortelnetworks.com/solutions/mahs/hosting/idc/net_host.html These devices have the potential to make the Internet look a lot more like cable delivery networks - e.g. Time Warner Cable forces Disney to pay to allow TWC's cable modem customers to access Disney web content. UUNET strikes an agreement with CNN that blocks access to FOX, NBC and other news sites, etc. It also could kill the web banner advertising industry as these devices allow ISPs to replace banner ads on a web site with ads inserted by the ISP. Even worse, web surfers might be forced to watch a 30 second commercial for every ten minutes that they surf. The privacy issues alone could generate enough discussion to write a book (or two). It almost looks as if we'll move to a model where free, unimpeded access to the net is going to cost a whole lot more than $21.95 per month. Irwin -----Original Message----- From: shane [mailto:shane@bratnet.net] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:43 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Content Injection Appliance I need someones help, I saw a product at ISPCON Fall in CA. And the product allowed me to have it operate on my core routers and watch web traffic and allow me to "Inject" a "pop-up add" or a service anouncement. I have been searching my ISPCON "stuff" I collected and I can't find it, and it is driving me crazy. What I want to do is set up this box to watch web traffic, and when a new user logs in it checks to see "for example" if he has new mail on our mail-server, and pop-up a little window on his/her screen alerting them about this. But I don't want to make the user be required to use our home page as the start page. Can anyone tell me the name of this product, I am already aware of FrontPorch and their product would work, but they require me to allow them to to advertising to my customers, I don't want that. shane brath TDS.NET Internet Services shane@bratnet.net