What is topical for this list anymore? Since everyone agrees that no one is talking about any sort of content, what content can we agree should be talked about here? I don't recall any postings of FAQs that describe what is and is not a normal operational conversation at all...
Preface: this is only my personal opinion. Someone else may differ with me or may be able to express more clearly what I am trying to express. This list is for discussion of Internet network operations in North America. Generally, if it doesn't relate to routers and to the connections between routers then it probably is not network operations. Operational issues are always fairly immediate with perhaps a window of about 6 months into the future. Anything beyond that is philosophy, wishful thinking or IETF standard setting material. If your company operates a network then it is likely that some things that you do are operational (network operations center activities) and therefore are appropriate to discuss here and some things are not operational (modems, customer routers, etc). The people on this list generally would define the Internet as the mesh of BGP speaking routers, therefore discussions about anything outside that mesh may be off topic. This is why you will see sarcastic questions like, "How do I configure my router to deal with that?" when the topic strays. If I've missed something important or made a glaring error, please correct me publicly on the list, otherwise let's discuss it off list.
To keep "on topic" a bit, does anyone know who is putting in decient sized pipes from North America (is that on topic?) over to the dGix in Stockholm?
Wouldn't you just ask the dGix operators to find out this? And don't you think this kind of question would find a better answer on RIPE's European operators list? ******************************************************** Michael Dillon voice: +1-650-482-2840 Senior Systems Architect fax: +1-650-482-2844 PRIORI NETWORKS, INC. http://www.priori.net "The People You Know. The People You Trust." ********************************************************